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Finding Our Center in the Unexpected with Kathy Henry

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2021 brought unexpected challenges and changes to all of us. Kathy and Karen are no exception. In this interview, Kathy and I share some of our personal experiences with disruptive change over the last year. You’ll also hear our take on how realizing what’s really important can shift perspective and shine a light on whether we’re operating from fear or with love.

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Kathy Henry is a marketing consultant and copywriter, community volunteer and leader. TO her surprise, she is the mother of two adults (from a chronological perspective at least). In 2016 she co-founded Open Peaceful Heart with Karen Hager, a community dedicated to bringing more peace and love into our daily lives so it can ripple out into the world. Learn more here.


About :

Karen Hager helps people lift the fog of confusion and regain clarity about their life purpose. She connects with Source to provide compassionate, no-nonsense intuitive advice for people in transition. Reading from the energy of the human voice, Karen quickly gets to the root of your question and helps you see the possibilities for transformation.

Passionate about helping others connect with their natural intuitive abilities, Karen leads intuitive development classes and works with selected healers and teachers to empower people to listen to their own inner guidance. She’s the host of the popular weekly radio show Out of the Fog on Empower Radio.

These are times of great transformation, and many people are struggling with fear of change. Karen encourages listeners to shift their perspectives from fear to love so that they may receive the gifts of living through these unusual times.

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